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feike gerbrandy wrote:Hello Jason, I was present during your treatment. Sorry to hear that this happened. Sounds like a strange floater. Normally weiss rings aren't that fragile.
One should't judge a treatment by some case report. The majority of weiss rings can be effectivle treated by laser. Around 92-95% of people are and remain satisfied with the result. the 5-8% that are not satisfied can still choose a FOV if they want.
Why are these people not happy? Some of them suffer from the posterior vitreous membrane, some of them have additional floaters elsewhere in the eye. Some of them have small fragments that move close to the retina.Some can't be treated because the weiss ring is too extensive, but that's a different category, the "giant weiss ring"
So of 100 people that want to be treated at least 90 vitrectomies can be avoided by doing laser first. Out a 100 vitrectomies about 1-10 are not satisfied with the result (% depends on which reference). This can be because of a major complication. By avoiding a FOV these complicaitons are also avoided.
The retinal surgeon that sees unsasisfied patients doesn't see the satisfied ones so he gets the feeling that this therapy sucks.
Also one this forum you get a biassed image.
The main problem is that the FOV is the best but also the most invasive treatment option for floaters.It's perfectly reasonable to try a less invasive therapy first. Just realize it's not perfect and for most people will improve their symptoms but won't completely clear it. Interestingly enough clearing it completely is not necessary for most people.
Another thing that can happen is that new floaters can develop.
But after a FOV one can also develop macular pucker or other problems.
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eyeh8floaters wrote:Why does a laser Dr have to promote themselves on a floater website while FOV surgeons do not?
Answer: because they are trying to make money off of people suffering and give them false hope.
There are countless stories of bad outcomes and Ive posted countless quotes from patients before on the boards in the past. Sure there are some good stories from older people in their 50's+ but time and time again young patients turn up here saying laser was a mistake.
I've been doing floater research longer than you've been shooting lasers into peoples eyes and know better than to listen to someone like you.
I just hope young new floater sufferers are not duped into laser treatment.
I really feel bad for people like Jason who wasted their time with laser not to mention the crazy cost.
What blows my mind is how you said you were there during his procedure and then try and say how great laser is even though he said it was a waste of time and money. That's pretty disrespectful and unprofessional that you followed him onto a messageboard for sufferers.
Why do you keep posting here Dr Gellar? Why do you have so many accounts here?
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