Because I like to analyze how people behave and give my opinion... now my grain of salt... ;-)

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Dr. Geller:
- Thanks, because of you I now know about type A, B, AB personality a little bit, I would be able to use that when I talk ;-) [will fit my kind of humor a lot, hehe]

- That rancol has done 3 vitrectomies after laser is maybe that his floaters were so bothersome (at least for him) and he was working with Dr. Mackool, who AFAIK is supposed to be a good doctor (you have not mentionned him, but it looked like you were aiming at rancol).

- I like this line "What I do is surgery, not mathematics.", somehow show that surgery is not 100% previsible and provable at any time. It also show that you are conscious of this. People don't always have this kind of impression when their doctor speak. A lot of doctors look sure of themselves, but they are not 100% sure, they just look (or act). That doesn't mean they are not aware inside, most of them are very smart. ;-)

- You are probably good, but I won't say that everyone are good. There is some bad doctors. I don't necessary say that there is some doctor that want to be bad, but I am sure there is bad doctors as there is people who are not good in all field (sometime way more than we would want unfortunately, but that is another story). There is even statistics about doctor specifically (but we can make stats say anything we want, no? :P)

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rancol:
- When you say "If the doctor thinks there is little chance of success, the procedure should not be done." ... Please really rethink about saying this and apply it to "everyone". Someone can be pessimistic about the probability of success, but the patient might take a very conscious choice. It is all about risk/reward. If Dr. Geller explain that the chance of success are very low (but still there) and explain the risk of complication (apparently low with laser), etc. -- then the power is in the hand of the user. I am sure if the risk far outweigh the benefit, he will try to turn that person down. And might even decide to turn down the person for him (if for example she is a type A personality who go "nuts" without listening to his tips). But as a "smart person", I prefer to take my own decision (especially when I know the fact and risk) rather than someone else saying it. It is not because some people are dumb out there or not able to listen, that my right to think and choose [yes or no] should be removed. ;-) I hate when I am limited because a law/rule/decision is make because of some problems people.

If we apply your reasoning, then when an ophthalmologist who act like our "floaters problem" is nothing, he is right. It is still a problem (and I am not talking emotionally here, but rather by analyzing it a cold way). Also I know doctors who are against giving the details to the patient about a lot of thing. Yes it can "stress" someone to know too much, but personally, I prefer to be able to know if I want to. I won't like someone to hide information about my body because that someone decided it was better for me to hide it. I prefer to live consciously and know the facts. Is it the best choice always? I don't know, but that is what I believe is more "right".

- Dr. Geller gave a list of "some of the types of patients", not all, so that might explain why your kind of case was not included

- I don't know, but maybe Dr. Geller have got improvement with people with similar case to you? (improvement, maybe not 100% success!) I sure tend to understand that "small floaters" vs. "Weiss ring" have lower success rate... however he probably gave you the facts and I suppose you did know a little about laser back in time. It is a game of risk, I personally would consider surgery one day, but not being someone impulsive, I will take my time, and I will probably analyze the risks, etc. --- but who know it happen that sometime you are so fed up that you just want to "try it". It is sad that you did not have success with laser... and I also wish there was a miracle cure (without any side effects or very low, maybe your FOV is, but only time will tell I guess). Anyway, I do not think he promised you 100% success rate (even thought he looked confident to you), and you may know more than me about laser success with your kind of floaters, but you seemed to be informed at least.

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All that said, I do not take anyone side. I believe both side have valid points, however there is some attack there and there which are not 100% subjective or relaxed. I they somehow felt attacked. ;-)

I also do not believe laser is a magic bullet and I am not under the impression that any of the US doctors here (Geller, Karickhoff, Johnson, etc.) are claiming it is the perfect solution. I feel thing could be improved with laser or a better solution is awaiting us. But I understand that laser is one of the solution that sometime give result.

One of the question I still await from Dr. Johnson was something like "with unlimited time, could you get rid of any floaters". Because maybe rancol's kind of floaters are able to be vaporized by laser, but maybe it will take excessive time/patience/precision.

As for the money, seriously, I won't judge the amount. We all want to do more, etc. -- and to be really honest, I would pay WAY MORE than this to fix a major health problem. The thing is that there is risk and I won't play crash test dummies. But since I often describe my floaters as ruining part of my life, I won't hesitate to pay something like 50-100k$ to get 100% rid of them (without risk!). ;-) That may seems high... and I am quite cheap usually, but if it was to fix my body and enjoy life, I won't care, it would be money well invested! Plus if I feel better, it would be way easier to do more money! (Now I'm waiting for the doctors to tell me they will fix all my "major problems" for that amount )

A lot of people choose laser before vitrectomie because the risk are apparently lower.

Let's hope some day someone is gonna spray something in his eyes by error and find a cure for floater and all potential eye problems! ;-) Let's regenerate our eyes.