Did I make a GIANT mistake in opting for a 2nd FOV ?

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James Drury	Did I make a GIANT mistake in opting for a 2nd FOV ?		Lead	[-]
Posts: 36 7-Nov-2009 08:34:28	I know its early but my eye is very blurry and I have numerous floaters. I'm very confused and angry and upset about this. I just wanted to post this because I feel that if anyone can understand and help me its this board. Common people dont understand my problems. As a matter of fact a friend of mine asked me how my surgery went and when I told her about how upset I was with what I was seeing she went and told my best friend that she was tired of hearing me whining about my eye! I'm really angry with myself as of now for having a 2nd FOV in my left eye. I know I only had surgery the 4th but I have numerous floaters in my left eye. Dr Mackool has assured me in two emails that they are blood floaters that will dissappear but I have heard stories about fibrin or collargen cells post FOV. All I wanted to do was go in and clear up my residual floaters and that black fruit fly spot that pops up in the central of my vision. However I guess I didn't realize that those floaters were pretty minor and I could certainly function quite well with them. As of now my floaters are so numerous its like it was before my left eye was operated on in 07....very troubling to me to say the least. I'm praying that Dr Mackool is right and that these floaters will just fade in time and I'll be floater free. I just can't take another 6 months or year or God forbid more years living with numerous floaters. They debiliatated my life from the age of 15 -27 and I would honestly rather die than live like that again. Not saying that for shock value saying that out of sheer honesty. Sorry I'm so negative right now but I think I need to get this out there to a community that understands. James
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SALVI		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 172 7-Nov-2009 09:29:29	hi james i no what your going thow its a liveing nightmare no body noes what its like that is why i keep going on about haveing a fov is there any one out there lising to me james your not alone its a liveing hell i no its been 4 years 4 me and iam sill sufering i dont no how long i can keep going on 4 my self if you need to talk iam here james you will come thow this whit help from this board i now no it take its time saliv-
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Michael		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 34 7-Nov-2009 15:59:48	Hi James, Numerous people on this board had the same problem with blood floaters after FOV that you are having right now. It is due to a hemorrage or bleeding into the eye. This problem resolves on it's own completely, but it takes like 3 months for the blood to clear. So Mackool definitely speaks the truth. I know that waiting for 3 more months with these horrible floaters is probably more than what you expected. But there have been so many examples of this on the board, so I am guessing that this is a relatively common occurence to have bleeding after FOV.
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Creator		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1281 7-Nov-2009 16:19:07	I agree with Michael 100%. It is too early to jusdge the final outcome. As for others not understanding you, that's a given. For me, my friends "understands" up to some point but frankly I try not to talk too much about it to them. It is clear that they don't really understand fully and are only guessing my pain, which is somewhat normal. I know some of my friends have floaters and they never talk about them and don't seem bothered with them. I can only guess they are less bothersome than mine but it's possible I am just not able to cope with them as easily as my friends can. It was 3 days since surgery. I know we are repeating that to you a lot, but it is too early to judge the final outcome. The panic you have I won't judge on it because it is quite normal. You wonder if you did the right choice because you werent that bad before the op. I say you did the right choice and this will clear. We will see with some more time. Take care.
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Michael		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 35 7-Nov-2009 17:40:04	James, vitrectomy is an inexact science. Sometimes the surgeon can puncture a vein in your sclera as he is doing the vitrectomy, or when he is stitching you up, and you are left with a hemorrhage. I am guessing that he has to be pretty lucky not to puncture a vein in the process. Also I imagine the risk of hemorrhage is the greatest with the 20G (since the wound is the biggest and needs suturing), and the smallest with the 25G instruments. This is something that I also need to be prepared for as I am getting ready for my FOV, but frankly this is the least of my worries--I am much more concerned about the RD (with my retinas not being in ideal health as they are). With a hemorrhage, you know that it will go away. If it doesn't go away on its own, you just get another vitrectomy, and it will be gone for sure. We'll see how I will be able to handle it if I do get a hemorrhage. But since I know it's completely harmless, and a temporary thing, I will do my best to handle it well.
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Rockstarpaul		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 198 7-Nov-2009 20:18:25	I know what you mean about friends understanding Creator. To be honest I have stopped talking about it unless they ask now. I know they try to understand what it's like but I can never really get it across to them just how life destroying it can be. James, I think Michael and Creator are spot on with this. The blood will clear. it's just going to take a while. I know it must be horrible right now, but try and seek some comfort in those who have posted on here with similar problems and are now really happy with clear eyes. I don't think you made a giant mistake by the way. I probably would have done the same if I had been unhappy with a residual floater. Best of luck for a quick recovery, Paul.
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James Drury		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 37 7-Nov-2009 22:12:48	Hey thank you all for the encouraging words. This board had meant a lot to me when I was a terrified 27 year old infested with floaters in both eyes for over 12 years in the spring of 2006 and it meant even more for me to spread my joy after I had successful FOV's. It meant a lot to me to spread the joy and hope to everyone else out there suffering with floaters that you don't have to live with them. My eye is a little better today. I still have the blood floaters but my overall vision has improved slightly. I think possibly even some of my blood floaters are not as numerous. I will keep you all posted. Once again thank you all very much for the concern and well wishes. We have a very caring community here and it gives me great comfort hearing from all of you. James
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clutch		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3 7-Nov-2009 23:43:12	Its only been 4 days since ur surgery, give it time your jumping to conclusions and thinking the worst. IT WILL GET BETTER. Surgery is controlled trama to the body, it takes time for the body to adjust and heal. Remeber this moment if u do have some small residual flaoters that u can live with. I would consider myself blessed if I had just a few specks.
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rancol		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 588 8-Nov-2009 05:47:13	I'm confident, James, that your vision will continue to sharpen and your blood floaters will disappear over time. I think it is unlikely that you'd end up with more floaters after your second FOV that what you started with. Worst case scenario is that Mackool did not get the floater(s) that bothered you the most when you decided on the 2nd FOV. This was my case, and I had the 3rd FOV, and I am EXTREMELY happy I did. He finally got the floater that plagued me, and I am living happily ever after. There was the usual discomfort after the 3rd FOV, but it was worth it for me. I hope this 2nd FOV did the trick for you, though. Your patience will be rewarded.
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loulou		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 992 8-Nov-2009 06:20:18	Hi James I hope things continue to improve - i have heard it can take a long time. Thanks so much for posting - i hope you continue to report what's happening because these type of posts really help other people to be prepared for the days and weeks post-fov.
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frenchfloaters		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 117 16-Nov-2009 15:44:09	Hi James I hope things are going in the right way and improvement still continue . let us know Best of all FF
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kalachakra1234		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1197 17-Nov-2009 09:14:37	Hi James, It is impossible to remove all the vitreous without removing the lens. Even a small amount of vitreous behind the lens is sufficient to support some floaters. Did Mackool suggested that you remove the lens in order to remove all the vitreous should these residual floaters you have refuse to dissolve? Are you considering this path? It is not the end of the world. Now, I hope that people don't think that I am crazy when I was talking about 100% vitreous removal in the expense of the lens. Quite often, we are left we no choice but have to choose between cataract or floaters.
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James Drury		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 40 17-Nov-2009 15:17:39	Dr Mackool says that the floaters I have are not the usual floaters but are blood floaters that will dissolve in time. I still see some annoying floaters but it's only been 13 days. Some of them have definitely gone but I'm eagerly awaiting for all of them to go away. From what I hear this can take months sometimes.
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James Drury		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 41 17-Nov-2009 15:19:19	Also when my eye was examined it was determined that I had quite a few blood cells behind my lens which would explain why some of what I'm seeing is so annoying.
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LongShloong		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 185 17-Nov-2009 16:55:59	Option one , they are blood floaters that get cleared, floaters do not mix in the vitrectomied areas of the visual field. Option two , a big residual floater with high opacity points in it.
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